Hai Ijat, lama tak nampak? Amacam la ni? Aku rasa hang pun dah ubah pendirian hang la ni. Bagusla...at least hang tau jugak sapa yg sbnqnya yg jahat dlm isu SC ni. That's more like it bro. At least aku pun tak perlu jwb soalan2 hang dulu tu..
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salam , kata mengata , umpat umpatan...dan selebihnya apa yang akan kita perolehi sebagai HAMBA disisi NYA...bukankah sifat manusia itu sendiri berada didalam kerugian kecuali orang orang yang beriman serta ingat meng ingati sesama insan...pada pendapat saya...jangan di kaji atau di keji sesuatu musibah itu keterlaluan kerana setiap yang dikata atau diluahkan akan terpalit ke atas diri sendiri...sifat maaf memaafi perlu di pupuk dikala ini kerana di khuatiri yang dikejar tak dapat dan yang di sebut keji kejian akan bertambah sahamnya di SANA nanti...Biar kan Ame and the gang dgn kemelutnya ...seccom dgn keletahnya dan hakim dengan kepandaian keputusannya dan kita sebagai hamba yang bijak dan bertamadun hanya perlu memerhatikan rangkaian pelawak pelawak itu memainkan peranan mereka...MELANGKAH BIAR KEDEPAN dan SESEKALI MENOLEH BIARLAH KEBELAKANG ________________________________________ Masih ada sinar dihujung sana
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MAREVA INJUNCTIONS The policy in this chapter is to be followed by Tax Office staff. We have made every effort to ensure it is technically accurate, but in the interests of clarity it has been written in 'plain English' and should not be read or interpreted like legislation. If you feel that something in the chapter is wrong, please advise the Tax Office.
Date of effect: 4 July 2006 ( This replaces the 2003 version.)
36.1 PURPOSE
36.1.1 The purpose of this chapter is to provide a general understanding of Mareva injunctions and when these should be used.
36.2 INTRODUCTION
36.2.1 The Mareva injunction is a legal procedure initially devised by the English courts. It gained its name from one of the initial cases in which such an injunction was granted by Lord Denning in 1975; Mareva Campania Naviera SA v International Bulk Carriers SA [1980] 1 All ER 213, [1975] 2 Lloyd's Rep 509.
36.2.2 In the early stages of its development, a Mareva injunction was used to restrain foreign defendants in actions for recovery of debts from removing assets from the jurisdiction of the Court. Nowadays, the defendant need not be foreign or foreign-based. The mode of dealing with assets is not limited to removing them from the jurisdiction. For example, there may be a fear that money in a bank account will be withdrawn and dissipated, or that expensive cars have been purchased as assets easily concealed and disposed of for cash or that a company with nominal paid up capital is likely to distribute its assets to the beneficiaries of the trust of which it is the trustee.
36.2.3 Mareva injunctions are available in all Australian Courts. In Jackson v Sterling industries Ltd. (1987) 162 CLR 612;71 ALR 457, the High Court expressly recognised it and held that, as a general proposition, it should now be accepted in Australia that a Mareva injunction can be granted if the circumstances are such that there is danger of the defendant absconding, or a danger of his or her assets being removed from the jurisdiction or disposed of within the jurisdiction, or otherwise dealt with so that there is a real danger that a successful plaintiff will not be able to have his or her judgment satisfied. The High Court further expressed the view that the Mareva jurisdiction is based on the court's power to prevent an abuse of its process. Any attempt by a defendant to frustrate the enforcement of judgment, for example by moving or concealing assets, is an abuse of its process.
36.2.4 A Mareva injunction may be granted either before or after judgment has been obtained, and even in support of a costs order prior to taxation of costs. To this end, it represents a limited exception to the general rule that a plaintiff must obtain his judgment and then enforce it.
36.2.5 To justify a Mareva injunction, there must be in the view of the court a real and not merely fanciful risk 'that in the absence of an injunction any assets wherever located which the defendant may have will be dissipated or dealt with in some fashion such that the plaintiff will not be able to have the judgment satisfied'. In this context, the court is unlikely to restrain a defendant from embarking on a course of conduct, which forms part of his normal course of business. For example, the court is unlikely to restrain a real estate developer from dealing with his/her real property, which constitutes his stock on hand and forms an integral part of his business.
36.2.6 The type of assets that are commonly made the subject of a Mareva injunction includes land, cash, the contents of bank accounts and shares.
Third parties
36.2.7 During investigations of the defendants' affairs, including their compliance history, it may become apparent that their affairs have been deliberately organised in this manner in order to frustrate any judgments made against them.
36.2.8 A Mareva injunction can be used to restrain the disposal or removal of assets held by third parties where it can be demonstrated to the Court that the debtor against whom judgment may be obtained has some control over property held by a third party. DFC of T v Ousley & Ors 92 ATC 4168.
36.2.9 Alternatively,a Mareva injunction may be granted against third parties where they have obtained the assets of the defendant by means of sham transactions or fraudulent conveyances. The court has taken the view on a number of occasions that assets, even though in the name of the defendant's spouse, were in reality family assets.
36.2.10 The evidentiary onus lies on the Plaintiff to convince the court that the assets of the third party are, in reality available to the defendant to meet his obligations.
Breaches
36.2.11 A Mareva injunction is a court order. Consequently, wilful breaches are punishable as a contempt of Court with appropriate penalties.
36.2.12 As a model litigant, the Commissioner has a duty to bring such contempt to the attention of the Court.
36.2.13 In an unreported Tax Office matter, a defendant who purported to assign his half share of his matrimonial home to his estranged spouse under a Family Law settlement while a Mareva injunction was in force, was sentenced to two months imprisonment.
36.2.14 On the other hand, because the Mareva injunction is an equitable remedy, the Court will not tolerate any abuse of the procedure. Accordingly, improper conduct by the plaintiff, such as not commencing recovery proceedings until well after the due date of an assessment or putting unfair pressure on the defendant may lead the Court to refuse to grant or continue the injunction.
Taxation context
36.2.15 In the taxation context, a debtor might decide to deny the Commissioner access to his or her assets by disposing of them, or moving them to places where the Commissioner could not levy execution on them. To avoid this, the Commissioner can apply to the Court for a Mareva injunction, which would prohibit the debtor from dealing with his or her assets pending further orders from the Court.
36.2.16 The Courts have been prepared to adapt Mareva injunctions to a range of situations, eg to combat a comprehensive 'web or scheme' designed to disguise a taxpayer's ownership of assets and thus assist the taxpayer evading tax: DFC of T v Winter 88 ATC 4144.
36.2.17 In other unreported cases, the court has been receptive to the Commissioner's application for Mareva injunctions particularly in cases where the liability arises out of an audit of undisclosed income or where the debt has arisen as a result of a fraud on the Commonwealth.
36.2.18 The Courts have also recognised that an income tax liability becomes due (although not payable until a future date) upon service of the notice of assessment. To this end, the court have been prepared to grant Mareva injunctions notwithstanding that the due date for payment of the assessment has not yet expired: DFC of T v Sharp & Anor; Ex parte DFC of T 88 ATC 4572.
36.2.19 The existence of a Mareva injunction does not prevent parties other than the defendant from dealing with the defendant's assets. Accordingly, the existence of a Mareva injunction would not preclude the Commissioner from utilising his garnishee powers pursuant to section 260-5 of the TAA 1953 ( DFC of T v Zumtar & Ors (92) ATC 4351).
Limitations on the effectiveness of Mareva injunctions
36.2.20 The remedy operates against the individual concerned and not against the actual property. Accordingly it does not create additional rights nor transfer property rights to the plaintiff.
36.2.21 The injunction is not intended to give the plaintiff security in advance of judgment but merely to prevent the defendant from defeating the plaintiff's chances of recovery by dissipating or secreting away assets. Accordingly, it does not elevate the plaintiff to the status of a secured creditor.
36.2.22 A Mareva injunction does not apply indefinitely, but can apply both prior to and after the entry of judgment in the primary cause of action and can continue in force until judgment is executed.
36.2.23 Generally, the Courts would not place a total freeze on all of the defendant's assets and will normally permit the defendant to use a specified amount for reasonable living/business expenses and other proper purposes: Commissioner of State Revenue (WA) v Mechold Pty. Ltd. & Anor 95 ATC 4053.
36.2.24 A Mareva injunction cannot be used to affect the rights which a third party may have acquired over the defendant. For example, a defendant cannot be prevented from paying his legitimate debts, or disposing of his assets in the normal course of business A.J.Bekhor & Company v. Bilton [1981] 2 ALL ER 565.
36.2.25 A Mareva injunction will not apply to shares or title deeds, which a financial institution is holding as securities nor to articles in a safe deposit in the name of the defendant. Similarly, a Mareva injunction may not apply to money standing to the credit of a joint account in the names of the defendant and some other person or persons who is/are not a party in the proceedings.
Requisite elements for a Mareva injunction
36.2.26 In Third Chandris Shipping Corp. v Unimarine S.A . (1979) Q.B. 645 at 668 , Lord Denning outlined the requisite elements that the plaintiff must address in an application for a Mareva injunction. In the case of the Commissioner as plaintiff, the following are considered relevant:
A Prima-facie cause of action
36.2.27 In the first instance, the Commissioner must establish a prima-facie cause of action against the defendant. A prima-facie case is one that has a serious possibility of ultimate success as opposed to a speculative case. Therefore the Commissioner must demonstrate a good arguable case against the defendant. The cause of action is the non-payment of the debt by the date that it was due to be paid.
36.2.28 Although it is an advantage to have commenced legal recovery proceedings before embarking on a Mareva injunction, it is not an essential prerequisite. It will not always be possible to commence legal action because the assessed amounts due to the Commissioner may not be payable at the point in time when action to obtain a Mareva injunction is commenced (ie payable at a future date).
36.2.29 If legal action has not commenced, the plaintiff must establish a claim against the defendant. The Courts would appear to be satisfied that the Commissioner has a sufficiently strong case where notices of assessment have issued. Production in Court of notices of assessment, by virtue of section 177(1) of Income Tax Assessment Act 1936 are deemed to be conclusive evidence of the making of the assessments. ( Commissioner of Taxation v. Rosenthal [1984] 16 ATR 159) and ( DFC of T v Sharp & Anor; Ex parte DFC of T 88 ATC 4572). Where legal action has not commenced, it is to be expected that the court will require an undertaking that proceedings for recovery be commenced within a fixed time.
B Disclosure to the Court
36.2.30 In an ex-parte application, it is important for the applicant to adequately bring to the court's attention all material matters, to avoid injustice to the defendant. Such matters should include any assumption made in the absence of sufficient evidence or suspicion of a particular course of conduct by the defendant, which may not be fully substantiated.
36.2.31 Hearsay evidence is admissible as long as the source of information is explicitly stated.
C Assets within the jurisdiction
36.2.32 The Commissioner must provide evidence of the existence of assets owned by the defendant within the jurisdiction. The nature of the assets, their location and their approximate value should be identified with as much detail as possible.
36.2.33 It is however not a fatal obstacle that the applicant for a Mareva injunction has little or no knowledge of the financial circumstances of the party against whom the injunction is sought, nor that with more diligence something more might have been discovered: Commercial reality often requires an application for this relief to be brought quickly and without notice before detailed enquiries can be made, otherwise its very purpose could be frustrated.
36.2.34 The case of Riley McKay Pty. Ltd.v McKay [1982] 1 NSW LR 264 established the principle that a defendant is required to make an affidavit of discovery of assets in aid of a Mareva Injunction.
36.2.35 In the event, however, that the plaintiff can identify the defendant's assets with sufficient particularity to enable the court to make an effective order, no discovery will be required. However discovery should be sought where the precise form and whereabouts of a defendant's assets are in doubt; or where distribution of assets among a number of defendants is unclear. Without the aid of discovery, it may be impossible to enforce the order or to oblige third parties to comply with it. A defendant is obliged to disclose all assets including those in which he has only a contingent interest, when making his affidavit of discovery.
36.2.36 Some Australian decisions indicate that a Mareva injunction may be granted to restrain a person from dealing with assets wherever they are located, and regardless of whether they have ever been within the jurisdiction. In DFC of T v Hickey & Anor 96 ATC 4892, the Supreme Court of WA ruled that a Mareva injunction can apply to assets outside the territorial jurisdiction of the court (in this case New Zealand).
36.2.37 However, this is not settled law and there appears to be some judicial conflict on the question of jurisdiction ( FC of T v. Karageorge & Ors (96) ATC 5114), ( National Australia Bank Ltd v Dessau & Ors (1988) VR 521) and ( Brereton & Ors v. Milstein & Ors (1988) VR 508). Generally, the Commissioner will apply for an injunction covering assets in Australia and overseas.
D Grounds for believing that there is a real risk of dissipation
36.2.38 The Commissioner must provide some grounds for believing that there is a risk of the assets being moved from the jurisdiction or otherwise deal with so that there is a danger that the Plaintiff if he recovers judgment, will not be able to satisfy it. A fear held by the Commissioner that the assets are likely to be improperly dealt with is not sufficient to seek a Mareva injunction.
36.2.39 Evidence must be provided that the risk has materialised or will probably do so. It must be shown that the defendant may be organising his/her affairs and assets so that any judgment obtained will be frustrated.
36.2.40 It may be difficult to establish a clear case of real risk, but evidence as to the previous conduct of the defendant may hold significant weight in such matters. Situations may arise where evidence relevant to the cause of action itself is also relevant to the question of risk of dissipation of assets.
36.2.41 The same factors that go toward establishing a prima-facie cause of action may in certain cases be used to establish the question of risk of dissipation. This is particularly so in cases in which the prima-facie cause of action against the defendant involved evidence of gross dishonesty.
36.2.42 The case of Patterson v. BRT Engineering (Aust) Ltd (1989) 18 NSWLR 319 involved a claim by the plaintiff that the defendant had fraudulently misappropriated a large sum of money from a company in his control. It was held by the court that the nature of the scheme in which the defendant appeared to have engaged was such that it was 'reasonable to infer' that he was not the sort of person who would, unless restrained, preserve his assets intact so that they might be available to his judgment creditor. The evidence used to bring on the action was also held to be relevant in establishing the question of the risk of asset dissipation.
36.2.43 The court was also prepared to find a real risk of dissipation of assets by the defendant based on evidence of earlier dishonest conduct in the unreported decision of DFC of T v. Robertson Supreme Court of Western Australia on 21 January 2000. The court granted an extension of a Mareva injunction despite the fact that there was no direct evidence of intention to avoid the debts or of any preparations to dissipate assets. The court was prepared to find a real risk of dissipation of assets by the defendant based on evidence of earlier dishonest conduct.
36.2.44 The ATO Compliance model clearly links compliant attitudes to the severity of collection strategies, therefore a decision to seek a Mareva injunction should be closely linked to the framework of the Compliance Model.
36.2.45 To enable the judge to evaluate an application, the Commissioner's affidavit should disclose the inquiries which have been made about the defendant and its business and the results of those enquiries. The affidavit should also include details of any statements or inferences from the defendant indicating an intention to move assets as well as any threats made by the defendant. Financial statements, such as balance sheets may also be used to support the application.
36.2.46 The strength of the evidence contained within the affidavit presented to the Court will be the deciding factor in whether the Mareva injunction is granted.
E Undertaking as to damages
36.2.47 A Mareva injunction may have serious consequences on a defendant's business, which may lead to substantial claims being made against the Commissioner in the event that it is found that the injunction was unjustified. The Commissioner would ordinarily be required to give an undertaking as to damages, which may be supported, by a bond or other security.
36.2.48 In this regard, the Commissioner must ensure that the injunction is not too wide; catching unnecessarily assets of which he was unaware, or extending to assets greater in value than are necessary to meet the claim.
36.3 POLICY
36.3.1 The intent of the Mareva injunction procedure is to preserve the assets of a defendant in legal proceedings where there is evidence of a real risk that such assets may be removed, dissipated and generally put beyond the reach of the plaintiff to frustrate action for execution when he/she eventually obtains judgment.
36.3.2 In the taxation context, the Commissioner has a duty to protect the revenue. This duty requires him to ensure that taxpayers do not evade their liability by dealing with their assets in such a way so as to frustrate the execution of judgment.
36.3.3 As the prerequisites of a Mareva injunction are essentially predicated on the level of risk attributable to any case, the Commissioner's decision to embark on this process will invariably necessitate consideration of the principles foreshadowed in the chapter entitled "Risk management".
36.3.4 Where the risk assessment process, which requires due regard to the elements set out above, establishes an unacceptable level of risk to the revenue, the Commissioner will make a risk decision to minimise that risk. That decision may involve the instigation of a number of processes including the application to the Court for a Mareva injunction to preserve assets.
Roles of the Tax Office technical areas
36.3.5 Given the complexity of the matters requiring address in a decision to proceed with a Mareva injunction, the relevant technical area in Operations must be consulted at the earliest opportunity to assess the available evidence on which the application will rely.
36.3.6 As a Mareva injunction may impose considerable constraints on a taxpayer's resources which could adversely impact on his/her business, extreme care needs to be exercised in reaching a decision to utilise this remedy. Accordingly, the authority to approve an application for a Mareva injunction will be limited to senior officers after consultation with the relevant technical area.
36.3.7 Once a decision has been reached to proceed with the application, the manager of the ATO Legal Practice will decide whether the ATO Legal Practice will have conduct of the matter or alternatively whether the services of the Australian Government Solicitor will be required.
36.4 TERMS USED
36.4.1 'Mareva injunction' is an interlocutory injunction which restrains a debtor or the debtor's agents, servants or otherwise from removing assets from the jurisdiction or disposing of or dealing with those assets so as to frustrate a creditor seeking to recover from the debtor.
36.4.2 'Injunction' is an order by which the court directs someone to refrain from acting in a particular way, or in some instances, to perform a particular act (known as a mandatory injunction).
36.4.3 'Interlocutory' proceedings or applications are those actions taken during the course of an action which are incidental to the principal object of the action. In the collection context, it may be a further application made after a writ or summons has been issued for the recovery of a debt. These proceedings can also be taken prior to legal action being initiated provided the Commissioner gives an undertaking he will issue the relevant process (for example, writ or summons) within a certain time.
36.4.4 'Ex parte' means a matter dealt with by a court with only the applicant present - the defendant is not usually present to put forward an argument to refute that of the applicant.
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org org dkt yang bermulut manis..dgr sini..kamu semua tidak akan kaya atas apa yg kamu perolehi dr downline2 kamu ini..hidup kamu tidak akan selamat dunia akhirat..ku haramkan kamu makan duit ku
betul tu...kita doakan kepada orang2 dkt yg tahu sc dah nak mampus,tp taknak bagi amaran kat pelabur ttg hal itu supaya rezeki mereka ditarik oleh ALLAH YANG MAHA ADIL DAN MAHA MENGETAHUI... TAK KIRALAH MACAM MANA REZEKI DITARIK,CUMANYA HARAP BIAR DIORANG RASA DULU PEMBALASAN KAT DUNIA (CTH : ANAK,ISTERI SAKIT KE,KENA OPERATE KER,PERLU PEMBEDAHAN YG GUNA DUIT YG BANYAK,GILA SEBELUM SEMPAT HABISKAN DUIT PENIPUAN DAN SBGNYA )SEBELUM TERIMA PULA YG KAT AKHIRAT.... AMINNN....
(DOA ORANG TERANIAYA BIASANYA,AKAN DIMAKBULKAN ALLAH)
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cuba kau gunakan akal kau yang memang ada sedikit tu bang....
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allo mangkok.. memang ler tak paksa.. tapi promot sikit punya cantik jer dulu.. sekarang pandai kata pelabur menyalak ler pulak.... bahhhhh......l .. kalau benar semua ni penipuan.. UL aku pun dah tentu merupakan DL korang ler jugak..dia tertipu dengan korang..kami pun tertipu jugak..
dan kou ni.. kau tunggu ler masanya..saat kau dihisab di akhirat nanti.. merayu ler kau sana sini memohon keampunan dari DL berlapis lapis kau... lantak ler..
p/s : sori ler admin... bahser kasar sket.. bengkek sket aku ngan hipokrit sekor ni..
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masih ada lagi pembohongan dan penganiayaan pada manusia mulia bernama anuar hassan yang jelas tidak bersalah
aku simpati dan jijik melihat sikap penipu-penipu ni yang masih tidak segan-silu menyebarkan berita-berita palsu dan khabar-khbar angin yang tidak berasas. nak saman kalau ada bukti samanlah, tapi sampai hari ni senyap je , kenapa ya?
mungkin dah malu pada orang-orang yang telah dikutip duitnya untuk menyertai saman itu agaknya. nak pulangkan duit balik , dah pakai duit tu , buat malu je
tapi masih ramai berani memfitnah anuar hassan dan haji zurin yang tidak berdosa ini
tengok link dibawah , nilaikan sendiri pemfitnah-pemfitnah ini , semoga tuhan membalasnya
masih ada lagi pembohongan dan penganiayaan pada manusia mulia bernama anuar hassan yang jelas tidak bersalah
aku simpati dan jijik melihat sikap penipu-penipu ni yang masih tidak segan-silu menyebarkan berita-berita palsu dan khabar-khbar angin yang tidak berasas. nak saman kalau ada bukti samanlah, tapi sampai hari ni senyap je , kenapa ya?
mungkin dah malu pada orang-orang yang telah dikutip duitnya untuk menyertai saman itu agaknya. nak pulangkan duit balik , dah pakai duit tu , buat malu je
tapi masih ramai berani memfitnah anuar hassan dan haji zurin yang tidak berdosa ini
tengok link dibawah , nilaikan sendiri pemfitnah-pemfitnah ini , semoga tuhan membalasnya
aku menyeru pada mereka-mereka ini supaya bertaubat semasa ada waktu ni
Nampak sangat la engkau ni pengampu terbesar anuar hasan dan konco-konco, berani buat pengakuan SC dan tutup maknanya mengaku SC itu SCAM dan penipu, kalau lah anuar ni jenis berhati mulia spt yg kau dakwa buatlah pengakuan sekali pulangkan balik modal duit investor...itu baru lihat sebagai manusia mulia yg rasa bersalah menyimpan duit pelabur dari skim penipuan terbesar di MAlaysia hasil marketting terhebat alaf ini melalui blog, buah mulut, sms, dinner, CD, e-mail yg mempengaruhi 75,000 org melayu yang tidak berdosa yg sedang menanggung beban dgn masalah kewangan, perbalahan keluarga...mereka2 ni yg berdosa atau anuar hasan/DKT yg menjurus perbuatan dosa? Pokok pangkalnya semuanya dari DKT and the geng...org pengecut mcm kau mmg berani mencabar kes ini kemahkamah kerana bisnes ini tiada bukti kukuh, tapi boleh ke terlepas ke dipadang masyar kelak? Sendiri mau ingat aje le, setiap sen duit DKT akan dikira mana dtg sumbernya...kau rasa semua duit diaorang tu halal dan mulia ke?? hehehehe mangkok ayun betoi la engaku ni....subahat dan bertempat dapat dosa FOC jee...!!!! uweekkk...nak muntah dengar cerita pengampu mcm kau nihh...
masih ada lagi pembohongan dan penganiayaan pada manusia mulia bernama anuar hassan yang jelas tidak bersalah
aku simpati dan jijik melihat sikap penipu-penipu ni yang masih tidak segan-silu menyebarkan berita-berita palsu dan khabar-khbar angin yang tidak berasas. nak saman kalau ada bukti samanlah, tapi sampai hari ni senyap je , kenapa ya?
mungkin dah malu pada orang-orang yang telah dikutip duitnya untuk menyertai saman itu agaknya. nak pulangkan duit balik , dah pakai duit tu , buat malu je
tapi masih ramai berani memfitnah anuar hassan dan haji zurin yang tidak berdosa ini
tengok link dibawah , nilaikan sendiri pemfitnah-pemfitnah ini , semoga tuhan membalasnya
klu takde angin masa kan pokok bergoyang.apa salahnya diorang buat statement ker ape2 yg patut utk bgtau org yg depa tak salah.awat nak guna hg tlg bgtau.mesti depa rasa bersalah tu..................
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masih ada lagi pembohongan dan penganiayaan pada manusia mulia bernama anuar hassan yang jelas tidak bersalah
aku simpati dan jijik melihat sikap penipu-penipu ni yang masih tidak segan-silu menyebarkan berita-berita palsu dan khabar-khbar angin yang tidak berasas. nak saman kalau ada bukti samanlah, tapi sampai hari ni senyap je , kenapa ya?
mungkin dah malu pada orang-orang yang telah dikutip duitnya untuk menyertai saman itu agaknya. nak pulangkan duit balik , dah pakai duit tu , buat malu je
tapi masih ramai berani memfitnah anuar hassan dan haji zurin yang tidak berdosa ini
tengok link dibawah , nilaikan sendiri pemfitnah-pemfitnah ini , semoga tuhan membalasnya
siapa kah mereka mereka itu Anuar hasaan / amir hasan / haji zurin / yusrys / khairul / amir hasan forumer adalah merupakan sebahagian dari kita semua didalam laman ini dan merupakan manusia biasa seperti kita ini yang tidak lepas dari melakukan kesilapan dan kesalahan...megutuk dan mengata serta mengumpat adalah rangkaian gitu saham di SANA nanti raihla hasilnya disana kerana itu yang pasti...terpulang kepada kita semua samaada hendak menambahnya atau sebaliknya ... selepas saranan ini dibuat jawapannya telah disertakan bersama iaitu " TEPUK DADA TANYA HATI,APAKATA FIKIRAN"....MENGUTUK DAN MENGATA TIDAK AKAN DAPAT MENGEMBALIKAN KERTAS KERTAS YANG TLH DIPRINTKAN TANDA TANDA JUMLAHNYA KEPADA KITA SEMUA...
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ASKM....KITA SUME DH DITIPU HIDUP2 OLEH DKT AND GANG....TAK KIRA YG PANDAI KE TAK PANDAI KE YG TUA KE YG MUDA KE SEMUANYE TELAH DITIPU MCM TU JE...TAK ADA ACTION LANGSUNG...MUDAH NYE ORG KITA CARI MAKAN DGN DUIT ORG LAIN...BUAT UMRAH LA BUAT HAJI LA....PAKAI DUIT HARAM...CMNE TU...YANG MUSKIL ORG PALING PANDAI PUN KENA TIPU JUGAK...SC DAH BUNGKUS DAH JGN LA MENGHARAP LG....
kuat betul mamat nie backing DKT..... brp komisen dia dpt haa......????
ALLO BRO.. DIA BUKAN BACKING DKT.. MEMANG ORG DKT PUN... NI SPESIS MANUSIA YANG TAK BERTANGGUNG JAWAB.. MASA NAMPAK PELUANG.. MESRA BUKAN MAIN.. BILA NAMPAK MASALAH.. PERGH KELUARKAN HUKUM MACAM2, CAKAP TENTANG DOSA ORANG MARAH..MENGAKU DIRI MULIA.... SEMUA NGAKU MANGSA... WOI.. MANA CERITA SMF 48 YANG KORANG MEGAHKAN DULU?..NI SEMUA JADI SEDIH TAPI TAK MERENDAH DIRI PUN.. SEMUANYA UTK BELA DIRI.. HELAH BELA DIRI.. KALAU SATU PUAK TU KELUARKAN ISLAM HAGARI UTK KEPENTINGAN DIRI... KORANG JANGAN KELUARKAN ISLAM DREAM PLAK..UTK MELEPASKAN DIRI..
APA KAMI MAU... INFO BRO.. INFO.. DARI ORG YANG MEMPERKENALKAN SMF/SCH... INFO ... BUKAN LAKONAN BELA DIRI...
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ALLO BRO.. DIA BUKAN BACKING DKT.. MEMANG ORG DKT PUN... NI SPESIS MANUSIA YANG TAK BERTANGGUNG JAWAB.. MASA NAMPAK PELUANG.. MESRA BUKAN MAIN.. BILA NAMPAK MASALAH.. PERGH KELUARKAN HUKUM MACAM2, CAKAP TENTANG DOSA ORANG MARAH..MENGAKU DIRI MULIA.... SEMUA NGAKU MANGSA... WOI.. MANA CERITA SMF 48 YANG KORANG MEGAHKAN DULU?..NI SEMUA JADI SEDIH TAPI TAK MERENDAH DIRI PUN.. SEMUANYA UTK BELA DIRI.. HELAH BELA DIRI.. KALAU SATU PUAK TU KELUARKAN ISLAM HAGARI UTK KEPENTINGAN DIRI... KORANG JANGAN KELUARKAN ISLAM DREAM PLAK..UTK MELEPASKAN DIRI..
APA KAMI MAU... INFO BRO.. INFO.. DARI ORG YANG MEMPERKENALKAN SMF/SCH... INFO ... BUKAN LAKONAN BELA DIRI...
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Salam Dari saya KAYA COZ SC...../ CAMPROCASH / kepada siapakah dituju kan ayat seperti diatas....APAKAH ianya DITUJUKAN KEPADA SAYA sekiranya benar TERIMA KASIH yang tak terhingga...dari saya
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bro........ lantak ler siapa nak terasa ditujukan kepada siapa pun.... kalau terasa tu..dah tentu ada tersirat dalam hati..tu yang jadi sensitif..memang ada tak kena ler kot... TQ
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jika benar petualang sebenar ini seperti apa yg dijelaskan memang patut disingkirkan dari tampuk pemerintahan termasuk pengikutnya sekali.
sebelum ini ada antara kita ulas secara umum saja di pasai ini tp kini lebih jelas lagi. fikir-fikirkanlah kesahihannya, kita ada mata, telinga dan hati untuk menilainya. jika pihak ini selama ini sering mempengaruhi kita agar jgn percaya pd kata pihak lawannya. tp utk tidak berat sebelah kita kena dengar juga apa kata pihak lawan demi kepentingan negara.
BETUI TU AKAI PC... SESUATU PERLU DIJUNJUKKAN..SESUATU PERLU DIBUKTIKAN.. BUKA MATA MEREKA... NYATAKAN SUARA KITA.. TUNJUKKAN KITA MAMPU MENGUBAHNYA... ..tu pun kalau berani...
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Ya, DKT memang tak salah langsung kerana ianya sekadar nama. Yg salah ialah orang yg menubuhkan DKT (sapa lagi, takkan tu pun nak kena sebut?) dan seterusnya menipu pelabur2 di Malaysia khususnya.
p/s: Psstt...Khairul, kalau ada vacancy untuk keja backing DKT pass2 la kat aku eh. Macam best je..hehe
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DKT memang tak salah langsung , mereka semua pelabur biasa macam kita
DKT TIPU ORANG MELAYU! CAKAP SERUPA TAIK !!!!!!!!!!!
DKT tak salah langsung..??? DKT senang2 je ajak org ikut SC, sedangkan saya fikir 1000kali nak ajak walau kawan maupun sedara. walaupun SC mungkin bkn DKT yg punya tp cara mereka ajak org mcm confident sgt SC takkan lingkup. patutnya bg amaran dan nasihat, bkn galakkan org lain pinjam bank, jual tanah, keluar asb smua. bila org labur puluh ribu mereka tak persoal pun dan nasihat jgn labur byk. ini lah sikap mereka, sengaja ambil kesempatan.
bahkan ada jugak DKT ni tunjuk jadual byrn SC dulu, modal mereka cuma USD1000 tp untung ratus ribu RM tak sampai 1 tahun hasil dr pinjaman dan keluaran asb oleh DL2 mereka yg ribu2 jumlahnya.
kalau saya perangai mcm mereka memang saya akan kaya raya jugak, diam2 saja terima pelaburan DL tanpa persoal dr mana mereka dpt duit tu, pinjam atau asb. sdgkan saya antara yg terawal ikut SC ni dpt pulangan tak sampai RM10k.
bersyukur la bro akai dapat pulangan..... aku ni bro.. sposen pun belum.... masuk banyak lak tu.. tu pun selepas pikir panjang dan tunggu tengok.. dah berkali kali dengar penerangan dan janji..yakin ler..tup tup masuk jer sebulan.. dia convert la pulak..... ..
..dah jadi begini semua senyap dan sepi.. tak sakit hati ker tu? kena pulak time ..kat kampung sound nak pakai duit..tak sedih ker mengenang duit yang kian mereput tu?... so..brother khairol..jangan cakap main sedap mulut jer.. pakai otak sikit.. pikir perasaan orang.. tak semudah itu orang nak menyerah bulat2 apa yang berlaku ni...
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Perniagaan = mengambil duit milik kita tanpa persengketaan, dgn kepuasan dari pihak2
yang terlibat. kalau dijalankan dalam lunas perundangan / agama adalah yg terbaik.
Masallah nya dalam tamadun kita sekarang bila org2 dah pegi sekolah pandai meniaga
yg tak bertauliah......mula lah
1. pandai buat ayat power, 2. pandai buat iklan dalam Media cetak , laman web ,Blog.(berat sebelah) 3. pandai memanipulasi fakta dgn menujuk bukti yg +ve aje( memperlecehkan sesiapa yang menimbulkan fakta yg bertentangan) 4. Pandai memberi Jaminan yg , bunyi macam real..... 5. Pandai membuat Meeting, Diner, Convension.....dgn tujuan berkongsi pengalaman konon nya ( supaya pendengar rasa tertarik, irihati dan TAMAK) 6. Pandai beralasan macam macam untuk dapat ....biar boleh close sale aje....
kesimpulan nya disini .....kita harus sedar kalau kita nak meniaga ada teknik2
tamadun skarang yg kita terpaksa guna kan TAPI ingat JANGAN gunakan tektik
ini untuk MENIPU (dgn sengaja atau dgn tidak sengaja)
Penipuan tetap akan terbongkar...... Balasan dunia dan akhirat tetep menunggu
Saya masih menunggu walaupun dah tak berapa nak sabar lagi....
Yang lebih saya tunggu ialah 'sesuatu' kenyataan dari DKT. Dalam keadaan ini, sepertimana keadaan 'dulu', mereka patut tampil dan memberikan penjelasan (sebenarnya sejak dulu lagi). Jika DKT (Khususnya Amir, Anuar, Amin, Dato Roslizam, Dam Rong, Ismail, Zurin dan sebagainya) baca nota ini, tuan-tuan boleh email terus kepada saya pakai_akai@yahoo.com untuk memberikan maklumat di sini, jika PNC, masih banyak cara yang boleh dibuat, bukan berdiam diri seolah tiada tanggungjawab.
Pelabur tahu risiko pelaburan, tetapi risiko yang PERNAH DIBERITAHU oleh Dato Roslizam sewaktu DINNER dulu hanyalah 1) Kejatuhan nilai USD, dan 2) Berlakunya perang dunia ke-3.
Pelabur juga pernah disedapkan dengan cerita-cerita "SC ni sah berlesen di luar negara (Dominica), dan BNM beri kebenaran melabur ke luar negeri sejak 2005 dengan syarat-syarat tertentu.... Kerajaan Malaysia tak boleh buat apa-apa..., jangan takut..."
Dan beberapa kenyataan lagi yang langsung tak menjurus kepada kemungkinan berlakunya masalah besar seperti sekarang.
Jadi secara tak langsung, DKT perlu tampil memberi penjelasan. Bukan berdiam diri.
Pelabur semua ada akal untuk menafsir maklumat atau penjelasan DKT, kenapa tak mau ke depan menjelaskan....?
Terima kasih Tuan Admin....kerana tuan meminta penjelasan dari DKT sebenarnya saya yakin dalam PASAI ini ada top2 DKT yg menggunakan nick name tersendiri.....berilah penjelasan sejelas2jelasnya....
Saya pun pernah dengar RISIKO melabur di Swissscash ni sama jer
1) Kejatuhan nilai USD, dan 2) Berlakunya perang dunia ke-3.
Low risk....low risk...low risk.....ayat2 biasa ni....
betul tu PU2... bagi yang dah dapat pulangan senang lah duduk relax je tapi bagi yang belum dapat 1 sen tu haaa, kesiannn... DKT mesti beri penerangan... dapat balik modal pun dah cukup bagus bunga tu sukati lah sapa2 nak makan... nak sedekah pergi DKT pun bunga tu saya tak kisah... asalkan modal dapat balit... janji DKT dulu kalau masuk SC dapat ubah hidup jadi senang tapi sekarang hidup semakin susah, siapa yang berhutang bank nak masuk SC memang terasa... dah lah 1 sen tak dapat lepas tu terpaksa bayar hutang bank pulak... memang betul kata DKT SC mengubah hidup tapi mengubah hidup jadi semakin melarat... entah berapa ramai dah pelabur SC yang masuk court keluar court kerana hutang, entah berapa ramai dah pelabur SC yang telah muflis, entah berapa ramai saudara mara bermasam muka & bergaduh, entah berapa ramai yang bercerai berai kerana SC dan bermacam2 lagi entah kerana SC... memang SC mengubah hidup jadi merana... pilu nya hati kuuuuuu...
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Saya masih menunggu walaupun dah tak berapa nak sabar lagi....
Yang lebih saya tunggu ialah 'sesuatu' kenyataan dari DKT. Dalam keadaan ini, sepertimana keadaan 'dulu', mereka patut tampil dan memberikan penjelasan (sebenarnya sejak dulu lagi). Jika DKT (Khususnya Amir, Anuar, Amin, Dato Roslizam, Dam Rong, Ismail, Zurin dan sebagainya) baca nota ini, tuan-tuan boleh email terus kepada saya pakai_akai@yahoo.com untuk memberikan maklumat di sini, jika PNC, masih banyak cara yang boleh dibuat, bukan berdiam diri seolah tiada tanggungjawab.
Pelabur tahu risiko pelaburan, tetapi risiko yang PERNAH DIBERITAHU oleh Dato Roslizam sewaktu DINNER dulu hanyalah 1) Kejatuhan nilai USD, dan 2) Berlakunya perang dunia ke-3.
Pelabur juga pernah disedapkan dengan cerita-cerita "SC ni sah berlesen di luar negara (Dominica), dan BNM beri kebenaran melabur ke luar negeri sejak 2005 dengan syarat-syarat tertentu.... Kerajaan Malaysia tak boleh buat apa-apa..., jangan takut..."
Dan beberapa kenyataan lagi yang langsung tak menjurus kepada kemungkinan berlakunya masalah besar seperti sekarang.
Jadi secara tak langsung, DKT perlu tampil memberi penjelasan. Bukan berdiam diri.
Pelabur semua ada akal untuk menafsir maklumat atau penjelasan DKT, kenapa tak mau ke depan menjelaskan....?
Sekian.
benar sekali kata tuan...diharap sesapa dr team DKT yg selalu keluar masuk forum ni sama ada yg pernah kirim post atau saja nak dengar luahan pelabur2 kecik boleh memberi penjelasan secara private n confident pd mereka yg memerlukan. jgn khuatir, bkn semua forumer kat sini jenis kaki pukul maki hamun sesuka hati. masih ramai lagi yg berfikiran rasional dgn penjelasan yg jujur dan ikhlas bg menyatakan sesuatu yg benar. jika anda diam saja bermakna memang anda benar2 bersalah dan sengaja berbuat kesalahan kemudian melarikan diri. email saya akaipc2u@yahoo.co.uk
Kalau dia orang DKT tak ado nak boghie penjelasan, apo yang kito nak buek? Apo langkah-langkah yang porlu kito ambil? Kalau ado poguam yang tahu caro-caro yang botul nak mengambil tindakan undang-undang ke atas DKT, den nak berbincang ngan dio dululah utnuk memastikan yang den buleh dapek balik duit modal den tu Den tak meghaso langsung nie
Kalau dia orang DKT tak ado nak boghie penjelasan, apo yang kito nak buek? Apo langkah-langkah yang porlu kito ambil? Kalau ado poguam yang tahu caro-caro yang botul nak mengambil tindakan undang-undang ke atas DKT, den nak berbincang ngan dio dululah utnuk memastikan yang den buleh dapek balik duit modal den tu Den tak meghaso langsung nie
itu terpulanglah pd tindakan masing2, mgkin sbb nilah DKT tak nak timbul2 takut diambil tindakan oleh DL yg tak puas hati.
ada juga antara yg mengambil pendekatan bsikap lembut terhadap DKT ni. mungkin mereka ni lebih berpeluang utk dpt berbincang secara baik bg mendapat balik modal mereka berbanding yg bertindak kasar.
walau apapun kalau DKT langsung tak bg penjelasan walaupun dah guna cara baik, sapa2 pun takkan boleh sabar.
kita dengar dulu apa penjelasan mereka secara private baru boleh tau apa patut buat dan buat pertimbangan sewajarnya.