Saya yakin kita akan dapat kembali wang yang kita laburkan termasuklah keuntungannya sekali.Sebagai seorang idealis dan realis,saya tak mahu meletakkan tahap keyakinan saya pada tahap 100%.Cukuplah saya menyakininya pada tahap 99% sahaja sebab 1% lagi saya simpan buat mengubat kekecewaan di hati..(jika ada..) nanti.
Platform pelaburan SwC (saya tak guna SC sebab itu trademark lain) adalah melangkaui masa. Semasa didedahkan dengan peluang ini dulu,saya mengambil sedikit masa membuat research.Apa yang didapati dari kajian itu,sistem yang ditawarkan adalah rumit tapi dipermudahkan dengan kemudahan internet.Bukankah manusia mencipta sesuatu bagi kemudahannya sendiri?
Jika kita BACA & FAHAM apa MESEJ yang cuba disampaikan oleh CFO di dalam NEWS UPDATE nya (saya tak ketinggalan membacanya mulai 2005 hingga kini..),SwC adalah satu REVOLUSI BARU-NEW REVOLUTION - dalam pelaburan.Minda saya masih lagi ingat satu ketika dulu SS selalu mewarwarkan BSKL akan jadi BURSA MAYA-cuma sekarang nie sejak heboh tindakan terhadap scams dalam internet,isu ini tak pernah kedengaran lagi...time untuk take 5 barangkali.
Dalam forum baru-baru ini,ada forumers bincangkan mengenai Debit Card.Saya yakin jika kaedah ini di perkenalkan nanti,ianya tak semestinya dalam bentuk fizikal.Sebab dalam SwC ini,semuanya dalam bentuk maya.SwC mungkin akan memperkenalkan Virtual Debit Card..sebab dalam SwC,semuanya serba mungkin...
Bacaan ini mungkin dapat merangsang minda tuan-puan:
Electronic money (also known as electronic cash, electronic currency, digital money, digital cash, digital currency or scrip) refers to money which is exchanged only electronically. Typically, this involves use of computer networks, the internet and digital stored value systems. Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT) and direct deposit are examples of electronic money. Also, it is a collective term for financial cryptography and technologies enabling it.
While electronic money has been an interesting problem for cryptography (see for example the work of David Chaum and Markus Jakobsson), to date, use of digital cash has been relatively low-scale. One rare success has been Hong Kong's Octopus card system, which started as a transit payment system and has grown into a widely used electronic cash system. Another success is Canada's Interac network, which in 2000 at retail (in Canada) surpassed cash [1] as a payment method. Singapore also has an electronic money implementation for its public transportation system (commuter trains, bus, etc), which is very similar to Hong Kong's Octopus card and based on the same type of card
Alternative systems
Technically electronic or digital money is a representation, or a system of debits and credits, used (but not limited to this) to exchange value, within another system, or itself as a stand alone system, online or offline. Also sometimes the term electronic money is used to refer to the provider itself. A private currency may use gold to provide extra security, such as digital gold currency. An e-currency system may be fully backed by gold (like e-gold), non-gold backed (like eeeCurrency), or both gold and non-gold backed (like e-Bullion and Liberty Reserve).
Many systems will sell their electronic currency directly to the end user, such as Paypal and WebMoney, but other systems, such as e-gold, sell only through third party digital currency exchangers.
In the case of Octopus Card in Hong Kong, deposits work similarly to banks'. After Octopus Card Limited receives money for deposit from users, the money is deposited into banks, which is similar to debit-card-issuing banks redepositing money at central banks.
Some community currencies, like some LETS systems, work with electronic transactions. Cyclos Software allows creation of electronic community currencies.
Ripple monetary system is a project to develop a distributed system of electronic money independent of local currency.
Virtual debit cards
Various companies now sell VISA, Mastercard or Maestro debit cards, which can be recharged via electronic money systems. This system has the advantage of greater privacy if a card provider is located offshore, and greater security since the client can never be debited more than the value on the prepaid card. Also debit cards are useful for people who do not have a bank account or who can't find a Western Union. Generally cards can be recharged with either e-gold, e-Bullion, WebMoney, or via a wire transfer.
Advantages
Most money in todays world is electronic, and tangible cash is becoming less frequent. With the introduction of internet / online banking, debit cards, online bill payments and internet business, paper money is becoming a thing of the past.
Banks now offer many services whereby a customer can transfer funds, purchase stocks, contribute to their retirement plans (such as Canadian RRSP) and offer a variety of other services without having to handle physical cash or cheques. Customers do not have to wait in lines; this provides a lower-hassle environment.
Debit cards and online bill payments allow immediate transfer of funds from an individual's personal account to a business's account without any actual paper transfer of money. This offers a great convenience to many people and businesses alike.
Disadvantages
Although there are many benefits to digital cash, there are also many significant disadvantages. These include fraud, failure of technology, possible tracking of individuals and loss of human interaction.
Fraud over digital cash has been a pressing issue in recent years. Hacking into bank accounts and illegal retrieval of banking records has led to a widespread invasion of privacy and has promoted identity theft.[citation needed]
There is also a pressing issue regarding the technology involved in digital cash. Power failures, loss of records and undependable software often cause a major setback in promoting the technology.
Privacy questions have also been raised; there is a fear that the use of debit cards and the like will lead to the creation by the banking industry of a global tracking system. Some people are working on anonymous ecash to try to address this issue. The issue of providing anonymity to users itself introduces more problems, however; there is the distinct possibility that a fully anonymous digital cash system could permit the "perfect crime" - i.e., where a criminal uses someone else's electronic cash to make a payment, but cannot be traced - to occur. For this reason, 'revokable anonymity' is a suggested solution: a user is fully anonymous until they commit some crime, at which point authorisation is given for their identity to be revealed. However, critics of this policy point out that the anonymous users will never be caught and held trial (thus their identity will never be revealed) without tracing.
Future evolution
The main focuses of digital cash development are 1) being able to use it through a wider range of hardware such as secured credit cards; and 2) linked bank accounts that would generally be used over an internet means, for exchange with a secure micropayment system such as in large corporations (PayPal).
Furthering network evolution in terms of the use of digital cash, a company named DigiCash is at the focus of creating an e-cash system that would allow issuers to sell electronic coins at some value. When they are purchased they come under someones own name and are stored on his computer or under his online identity. At all times, the e-cash is linked to the e-cash company and all transactions go through it, so the e-cash company secures anything that is purchased. Only the company knows your information and will properly direct purchases to your location.
Theoretical developments in the area of decentralized money are underway that may rival traditional, centralized money. Systems of accounting such as Altruistic Economics are emerging that are entirely electronic, and can be more efficient and more realistic because they do not assume a zero-sum transaction model.
-- Edited by CANON at 23:35, 2007-07-16
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salam, menarik pandangan canon,dengan dalilnya sekali,saya sangat senang hati,kemungkinan akan berlaku pada SC dgn dedit card utk kita tidak dapat kita tolak,pelaburan kita dlm SC telah mencecah bilions of dollars,debit card adalah satu jalan yg sangat baik sekali dibandingkan dgn TT,yg mempunyai byk masaalahnya,apabila ada ganguan dari sesetengah pihak. syabas canon,
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Saya sangat bersetuju dengan saudara canan dalam beberapa bab :
1. Singkatan untuk SwissCash ialah SwC dan bukan SC ( Security commission ). So lepas ni, kita pakat guna SwC lah. 2. Memang SC mewarwarkan urusniaga secara virtual pada awal dulu tetapi jika di aplikasikan di bursa malaysia, brokerage charge menjadi minimum dan ini akan menyebabkan banyak syarikat sekuriti seperti KlCC Securities, TA securities dll akan tutup kedai. 3. Debit Card amat sesuai digunakan pada masa depan kerana semuanya akan menjadi VIRTUAL WORLD tidak lama lagi.
salam, saya tak setuju,sumbang bunyinya,SC (swisscash),SS (suruhanjaya sekuriti), Tuan admin pun pakai SS.kita dapat bezakan SS dan SC dgn mudah.
Yer betul En. Hamid..aku setuju, adalah lebih baik kita set kan standard berdasarkan dgn apa yg ditulis oleh admin..di mana kita guna SC (SwissCash) & SS ( Suruhanjaya Sekuriti)..kerana jika balik2 ditukar ia akan mengelirukan para pembaca.
Tahniah CANON kerana memulakan satu ramalan yang saya pun yakin 99.9% kita akan dapat semula semua pulangan pelaburan yang dijanjikan (Biiznillah..). Saya katakan demikain kerana berpegang kepada pengalaman yang ramai kawan-kawan ajarkan kepada saya yang berkaitan dengan kepercayaan. Nak percaya mengenai janji boleh guna tips berikut:
1. JANJI MELAYU : MEMANG TAK DITEPATI SELALU sebaliknya ada sahaja alasan sebab inilah itulah dan sering tak mahu mengaku jika kemungkiran itu telahpun berlaku.
2.JANJI CINA : JIKA DITUNAIKAN ADA MAKNA. Biasanya adalah yang terkena, terkena tipu sebab diantara prinsip perniagaan mereka jika tak menipu akan ditipu, jadi untuk selamat daripada ditipu kenalah menipu. Semua ini mereka buat bukan apa, sebab mereka tahu dan ada ilmu bahawa perniagaan itu adalah peperangan. Nak menang dalam peperangan kenalah tahu menipu. Malangnya yang banyak kena tipu tu ialah MELAYU.....
Wahai MELAYU cubalah katakan "AKU DAH JEMU DAN TAK MAHU" bertuankan si ANU yang satu negara dah tahu dan satu dunia pun dah tahu mereka tu pasti akhirnya akan MENIPUUUUUU.....
3. JANJI ORANG PUTIH : MEMANG LETIH TAPI BOLEH, boleh dipercayai kerana mereka ni biasanya nak jaga nama.
Kesimpulannya agak-agak SMF ini siapalah tuannya ye? Jika Melayu alamat tak merasalah duit aku...Jika Cina pun camtu, tak akan ada harapan nak dapat balik duit aku. Tapi SMF ni dengarnya yang empunya orang putih, jadi adalah harapan weh.. Depa nak jaga nama..habis berjuta pun tak pa asal nama bersih, itulah orang putih. So jangan bersedih, walaupun menunggu dah naik letih tapi saya rasa ORANG PUTIH MEMANG BOLEH dipercayai dalam bab janji ni. Kita tengoklah nanti betul tak apa yang saya katakan ni. Jika tak betul nanti, maaf je la ye, maklumlah kita hanya mampu meramalkan dan berbuat sesuatu mengikut kemampuan tapi yang akan menentukan kesudahan hanyalah DIA, tuhan semesta alam. Semoga takdir yang baik berpihak kepada kita semua. AMIIN !!
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"SEMOGA ALLAH MENERIMA AMAL KAMI DAN AMAL KAMU. BERWASPADALAH KALIAN SEMUA AGAR TIDAK DIPATUK 2 KALI DALAM LUBANG YANG SAMA"
Buat makluman tuan/puan semua,saya gunakan SwC cuma sekadar tak mahu mengelirukan diantara dua SC yang sediada sebab sumber bacaan dan rujukan saya banyak dalam English. (..contoh:...in the High Court of Malaya yesterday,SC had summons SC...)-tak ke haru.....saya sendiri pernah terkeliru begitu.Tapi kalau bacaan kita dalam BM,jelas kalau gunakan saja SC dan SS.
Dimaklumkan dan terima kasih.
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ONLY The TRUTH Will PREVAIL
Yang sebenarnya yang banyak komplain pasai sc nih ialah mlm, mutual fund-mutual fund dan insurans yang terjejas teruk akibat sc... so, mereka mohon pihak ss bertindak untuk menjaga periuk nasi diorang... contohnyer... mutual fund - sapa labur kena charge 6.5% dan ada kos setiap tahun bayaran kepada ss, kepada amanah raya, kepada lembaga pengarah, kepada fund manger, kepada konsultan, kepada penasihat syariah dsb menyebabkan keuntungan menjadi kurang menyebabkan mereka gagal untuk bersaing dengan sc ... sementelah pula kena bayar cukai kat kerajaan dkt 30%... so nak bayar tinggi camner...
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REZEKI ALLAH ADA DI MANA MANA... SAYANGI SESAMA KAMU DAN JGN BERPECAH BELAH...
D G Aku Pulang Dari Rantau A D Bertahun-tahun Di Negeri Orang A D A D Oh Malaya
D A D G Oh Dimana Kawan Dulu A D Kawan Dulu Yang Sama Berjuang A D A D Oh Kawanku
D A Inilah Kisahku Semalam Di Malaya D A D Diri Rasa Sunyi Aduhai Nasib C D A D A D Apakah Daya Cinta Hampa Hidup Ku Pun Merana A D A D Mana Dia
D A Kekasih Hatiku Pun Telah Pula Hilang D A D Hilang Tak Berkesan Aduhai Sayang C D A D A D Apakah Daya Cinta Hampa Hidupku Pun Merana A D A D Mana Dia
Coda: D A D A D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWDdJ08FT-E
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Saya yakin kita akan dapat kembali wang yang kita laburkan termasuklah keuntungannya sekali.Sebagai seorang idealis dan realis,saya tak mahu meletakkan tahap keyakinan saya pada tahap 100%.Cukuplah saya menyakininya pada tahap 99% sahaja sebab 1% lagi saya simpan buat mengubat kekecewaan di hati..(jika ada..) nanti.
Platform pelaburan SwC (saya tak guna SC sebab itu trademark lain) adalah melangkaui masa. Semasa didedahkan dengan peluang ini dulu,saya mengambil sedikit masa membuat research.Apa yang didapati dari kajian itu,sistem yang ditawarkan adalah rumit tapi dipermudahkan dengan kemudahan internet.Bukankah manusia mencipta sesuatu bagi kemudahannya sendiri?
Jika kita BACA & FAHAM apa MESEJ yang cuba disampaikan oleh CFO di dalam NEWS UPDATE nya (saya tak ketinggalan membacanya mulai 2005 hingga kini..),SwC adalah satu REVOLUSI BARU-NEW REVOLUTION - dalam pelaburan.Minda saya masih lagi ingat satu ketika dulu SS selalu mewarwarkan BSKL akan jadi BURSA MAYA-cuma sekarang nie sejak heboh tindakan terhadap scams dalam internet,isu ini tak pernah kedengaran lagi...time untuk take 5 barangkali.
Dalam forum baru-baru ini,ada forumers bincangkan mengenai Debit Card.Saya yakin jika kaedah ini di perkenalkan nanti,ianya tak semestinya dalam bentuk fizikal.Sebab dalam SwC ini,semuanya dalam bentuk maya.SwC mungkin akan memperkenalkan Virtual Debit Card..sebab dalam SwC,semuanya serba mungkin...
Bacaan ini mungkin dapat merangsang minda tuan-puan:
Electronic money (also known as electronic cash, electronic currency, digital money, digital cash, digital currency or scrip) refers to money which is exchanged only electronically. Typically, this involves use of computer networks, the internet and digital stored value systems. Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT) and direct deposit are examples of electronic money. Also, it is a collective term for financial cryptography and technologies enabling it.
While electronic money has been an interesting problem for cryptography (see for example the work of David Chaum and Markus Jakobsson), to date, use of digital cash has been relatively low-scale. One rare success has been Hong Kong's Octopus card system, which started as a transit payment system and has grown into a widely used electronic cash system. Another success is Canada's Interac network, which in 2000 at retail (in Canada) surpassed cash [1] as a payment method. Singapore also has an electronic money implementation for its public transportation system (commuter trains, bus, etc), which is very similar to Hong Kong's Octopus card and based on the same type of card
Alternative systems
Technically electronic or digital money is a representation, or a system of debits and credits, used (but not limited to this) to exchange value, within another system, or itself as a stand alone system, online or offline. Also sometimes the term electronic money is used to refer to the provider itself. A private currency may use gold to provide extra security, such as digital gold currency. An e-currency system may be fully backed by gold (like e-gold), non-gold backed (like eeeCurrency), or both gold and non-gold backed (like e-Bullion and Liberty Reserve).
Many systems will sell their electronic currency directly to the end user, such as Paypal and WebMoney, but other systems, such as e-gold, sell only through third party digital currency exchangers.
In the case of Octopus Card in Hong Kong, deposits work similarly to banks'. After Octopus Card Limited receives money for deposit from users, the money is deposited into banks, which is similar to debit-card-issuing banks redepositing money at central banks.
Some community currencies, like some LETS systems, work with electronic transactions. Cyclos Software allows creation of electronic community currencies.
Ripple monetary system is a project to develop a distributed system of electronic money independent of local currency.
Virtual debit cards
Various companies now sell VISA, Mastercard or Maestro debit cards, which can be recharged via electronic money systems. This system has the advantage of greater privacy if a card provider is located offshore, and greater security since the client can never be debited more than the value on the prepaid card. Also debit cards are useful for people who do not have a bank account or who can't find a Western Union. Generally cards can be recharged with either e-gold, e-Bullion, WebMoney, or via a wire transfer.
Advantages
Most money in todays world is electronic, and tangible cash is becoming less frequent. With the introduction of internet / online banking, debit cards, online bill payments and internet business, paper money is becoming a thing of the past.
Banks now offer many services whereby a customer can transfer funds, purchase stocks, contribute to their retirement plans (such as Canadian RRSP) and offer a variety of other services without having to handle physical cash or cheques. Customers do not have to wait in lines; this provides a lower-hassle environment.
Debit cards and online bill payments allow immediate transfer of funds from an individual's personal account to a business's account without any actual paper transfer of money. This offers a great convenience to many people and businesses alike.
Disadvantages
Although there are many benefits to digital cash, there are also many significant disadvantages. These include fraud, failure of technology, possible tracking of individuals and loss of human interaction.
Fraud over digital cash has been a pressing issue in recent years. Hacking into bank accounts and illegal retrieval of banking records has led to a widespread invasion of privacy and has promoted identity theft.[citation needed]
There is also a pressing issue regarding the technology involved in digital cash. Power failures, loss of records and undependable software often cause a major setback in promoting the technology.
Privacy questions have also been raised; there is a fear that the use of debit cards and the like will lead to the creation by the banking industry of a global tracking system. Some people are working on anonymous ecash to try to address this issue. The issue of providing anonymity to users itself introduces more problems, however; there is the distinct possibility that a fully anonymous digital cash system could permit the "perfect crime" - i.e., where a criminal uses someone else's electronic cash to make a payment, but cannot be traced - to occur. For this reason, 'revokable anonymity' is a suggested solution: a user is fully anonymous until they commit some crime, at which point authorisation is given for their identity to be revealed. However, critics of this policy point out that the anonymous users will never be caught and held trial (thus their identity will never be revealed) without tracing.
Future evolution
The main focuses of digital cash development are 1) being able to use it through a wider range of hardware such as secured credit cards; and 2) linked bank accounts that would generally be used over an internet means, for exchange with a secure micropayment system such as in large corporations (PayPal).
Furthering network evolution in terms of the use of digital cash, a company named DigiCash is at the focus of creating an e-cash system that would allow issuers to sell electronic coins at some value. When they are purchased they come under someones own name and are stored on his computer or under his online identity. At all times, the e-cash is linked to the e-cash company and all transactions go through it, so the e-cash company secures anything that is purchased. Only the company knows your information and will properly direct purchases to your location.
Theoretical developments in the area of decentralized money are underway that may rival traditional, centralized money. Systems of accounting such as Altruistic Economics are emerging that are entirely electronic, and can be more efficient and more realistic because they do not assume a zero-sum transaction model.
-- Edited by CANON at 23:35, 2007-07-16
...........dari Bro Canon,lebih 15 bulan yang lalu.
PHASE V This will be given to you starting at November from our banking Partners. You will have the possibility from that platform to do wires and to use DEBIT CARDS for withdrawing currency. Your address on data will be used to deliver those Debit cards.
fuyoooooooo.....jauhnya kau merantau hingga ke ruang lama..tapi saya kagum dengan ingatan kau untuk mencari posting2 yang lama dan masih dibincangkan disaat ini,tahniah.
CANON wrote: "Dalam forum baru-baru ini,ada forumers bincangkan mengenai Debit Card.Saya yakin jika kaedah ini di perkenalkan nanti,ianya tak semestinya dalam bentuk fizikal.Sebab dalam SwC ini,semuanya dalam bentuk maya.SwC mungkin akan memperkenalkan Virtual Debit Card..sebab dalam SwC,semuanya serba mungkin..."
((((((((macam mana nak tampal gambar "debit card" tu tanpa guna photobucket,langsung tak dapat dikesan darimana sumbernya.)))))))
kacaulah........orang bak belajar testing-testing tampal gambar pun tak senang,asyik nak bangkang aje. Kalau betul-betul nak jadi pembangkang,pergi masuk forum politik pembangkang.
kacaulah........orang bak belajar testing-testing tampal gambar pun tak senang,asyik nak bangkang aje. Kalau betul-betul nak jadi pembangkang,pergi masuk forum politik pembangkang.
Salam,
Ini berhubungkait dengan persepsi masing-masing,
ada yang melihat gelas diatas separuh penuh,tetapi ada juga yang melihatnya sebagai separuh kosong. Bersangka baiklah sesama kita.
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Tak perlu lah anda menipu kami lagi...apa yang anda lakukan sangat-sangat tidak bermoral.Tidak ada sesiapa di sini yang percaya pada anda lagi. Ilmu yang anda ada tidak akan dapat menyelamat kan anda...BERTAUBATLAH.
bro sapa yang tipu sapa?saya hanya menolong cari epoint untuk diberikan kepada semua orang yang perlukan....patutnya setelah dapat epoint tersebut kena jagalah...jangan sampai di ambil oleh orang... epoint yang anda dapat adalah tidak bermoral@hacker Kena jaga dari siapa?orang mana yang nak ambil?
saya tak memerlukan kepercayaan sesiapa.disini cuma sesiapa yang perlukan epoint boleh dapatkan dari saya...dan saya akan ajar cara-cara nak selamat epoint tersebut dari lesap.... siapa yang lesapkan?...apakah anda sendiri atau admin swiss1948. Sekiranya swiss1948 itu betul nak pulangkan duit kita balik...maka anda telah cuba merosakkan atau melambatkan usaha ini.
